Jet A in a 6.7 - F-Series & SuperDuty Diesel Forums

jvrapt · 11-12-2011, 01:21 AM

Anyone have any experience with it? I know that it's worked in the older models.

Why you ask? I have access to sumped Jet fuel from the aircraft I fly. It's sumped daily. The fuel is free and clear from water/contaminents and hey, it's FREE!! I'm looking into running it as a blend with Low Sulphur Diesel. 50/50

Thanks!

WD40 · 11-12-2011, 01:40 AM

First off, Welcome to SSD.com
When I was in the Navy many years ago, we loved getting JP-4 or 5 to run in
the diesel engines on the ship, but for a new truck I don't think I would use over
5 gal per tank fulland then I would mix some oil with it. What color is it and what
about getting your tankdipped. No tax fuel makes the LA-DOT boys real made.
Ask me how I know. LOL
Doug

jvrapt · 11-12-2011, 01:47 AM

Jet A is clear and it was taxed

BIG JOE · 11-12-2011, 02:32 AM

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Originally Posted by jvrapt

Anyone have any experience with it? I know that it's worked in the older models.

Why you ask? I have access to sumped Jet fuel from the aircraft I fly. It's sumped daily. The fuel is free and clear from water/contaminents and hey, it's FREE!! I'm looking into running it as a blend with Low Sulphur Diesel. 50/50

Thanks!

From a retired DOD Aviation & Ground Fuels Guy ?

Sumped fuel (Slop fuel.. in Fuel speak) may look good, [visually].. but could have many contaminants in it, like particulates, micro biological growths, H2o and other nasty stuff you Can't see. Unless you have acsess to the Daily Sample [LAB] results......... And what you dump into your tank hasn't been co-mingled with any other BAD samples.. it's Yer Call.. I wouldn't use it. It just ain't worth the gamble. But If you do..Be Awful Careful with that RATIO.

Jet A has flash point issues, verses Diesel fuels... and being a Jet fuel... it has additives in it. Some of those additives can have a negative effect on certain O rings and Gasket materials used in many Diesel engine fuel sytems.

It just ain't worth it.

On Edit ? What RoyBoy sez below too.

RoyBoy · 11-12-2011, 09:29 AM

Just remember if you do it and have a problem, it'll be on you. The fuel systems in these trucks are incredibly expensive to repair. I don't know the properties of Jet A, but if it's much different than ULSD, I wouldn't even consider it. JMHO

WD40 · 11-12-2011, 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by jvrapt

Jet A is clear and it was taxed

It may be Taxed, but it don't have LA road tax paid on it.
What Joe and Roy said is what I would go by these days.

Doug

jvrapt · 11-12-2011, 11:29 PM

Thanks for your input gentlemen. I appreciate your concerns for the fuel quality as it pertains to "sumped" however that is no concern. The aircraft is sumped daily and the fuel is more free of issues than any road fuel we've used. The primary concern is with how the engine would handle it.

I've spoken to a lot of guys in the aviation world in the last few days that has run Jet A for years now and has had sucess.

Thanks again.

BIG JOE · 11-13-2011, 01:20 AM

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Originally Posted by jvrapt

Thanks for your input gentlemen.

I've spoken to a lot of guys in the aviation world in the last few days that has run Jet A for years now and has had sucess.

Thanks again.

Best of Luck to ya...

The Long Term effects would be my concern. DPF too ?

Dogman · 11-13-2011, 09:05 AM

The dealer looks for ANY reason to kill your warrenty. They will test the fuel to see what it is. If there is the a problem.

Term3 · 11-13-2011, 06:22 PM

I think a 60/40 mixture of jp 4 or 5 would be fine considering some of the other slop guys are pouring into their tanks. Jp 4/5 has a lower viscosity then #2 diesel it also has next to nothing for additives other then a rather complex pour point additive package.

11-12-2011, 01:21 AM	#1
jvrapt SDD Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: lafayette, la usa Posts: 3 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Jet A in a 6.7 Anyone have any experience with it? I know that it's worked in the older models. Why you ask? I have access to sumped Jet fuel from the aircraft I fly. It's sumped daily. The fuel is free and clear from water/contaminents and hey, it's FREE!! I'm looking into running it as a blend with Low Sulphur Diesel. 50/50 Thanks!

11-12-2011, 01:47 AM	#3
jvrapt SDD Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: lafayette, la usa Posts: 3 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Jet A is clear and it was taxed Last edited by jvrapt; 11-12-2011 at 01:48 AM.

11-12-2011, 09:29 AM	#5
RoyBoy Diesel Dork Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: central WI Posts: 1,208 Thanks: 18 Thanked 37 Times in 34 Posts View Photos By: RoyBoy	Just remember if you do it and have a problem, it'll be on you. The fuel systems in these trucks are incredibly expensive to repair. I don't know the properties of Jet A, but if it's much different than ULSD, I wouldn't even consider it. JMHO __________________ Roy 2011 F450 Lariat Ultimate Duraflap Mud Flaps w/ SS Retrax PRO Bed Cover Otherwise stock

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Dogman Dogman Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: tampa,FL Posts: 1,331 Thanks: 2 Thanked 104 Times in 90 Posts	The dealer looks for ANY reason to kill your warrenty. They will test the fuel to see what it is. If there is the a problem. __________________ 2008 F-250 All stock so far...LOL 1999 Jeep TJ play toy on 32" tires custom bumpers by me

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11-12-2011, 01:40 AM	#2
WD40 SDD Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Benton Arkansas & McAllen Posts: 2,755 Thanks: 57 Thanked 110 Times in 106 Posts View Photos By: WD40	First off, Welcome to SSD.com When I was in the Navy many years ago, we loved getting JP-4 or 5 to run in the diesel engines on the ship, but for a new truck I don't think I would use over 5 gal per tank fulland then I would mix some oil with it. What color is it and what about getting your tankdipped. No tax fuel makes the LA-DOT boys real made. Ask me how I know. LOL Doug __________________ 2006 Ford F-350 Crew Cab Lariat 4X2 PSD 6.0 TorqShift Automatic Transmission, MAG-HYTEC DIFF COVERS Bama ZooDad If you think the 6.0 is bad.....Get a 6.4 2004 35 ft Hitch Hiker 16589 EW. Doug Is it time to go camping yet?

11-12-2011, 11:29 PM	#7
jvrapt SDD Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: lafayette, la usa Posts: 3 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Thanks for your input gentlemen. I appreciate your concerns for the fuel quality as it pertains to "sumped" however that is no concern. The aircraft is sumped daily and the fuel is more free of issues than any road fuel we've used. The primary concern is with how the engine would handle it. I've spoken to a lot of guys in the aviation world in the last few days that has run Jet A for years now and has had sucess. Thanks again.

11-13-2011, 06:22 PM	#10
Term3 SDD Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Edmonton, Alberta Canada Posts: 3 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	I think a 60/40 mixture of jp 4 or 5 would be fine considering some of the other slop guys are pouring into their tanks. Jp 4/5 has a lower viscosity then #2 diesel it also has next to nothing for additives other then a rather complex pour point additive package.