Question why does my truck surge?? - F-Series & SuperDuty Diesel Forums

jtfarns · 01-05-2012, 05:50 PM

Hope someone can help. When I start it cold (even if it has been plugged in all night) it will surge at part throttle until it is COMPLETELY warmed up. The only way I have been able to get it clear and run right is to give it a FULL throttle blast down the road. I don't like to have to boot the throttle like that. Has anyone else run into this?? Thanks

DaveBen · 01-05-2012, 06:01 PM

What oil weight are you running? Maybe too thick for NH.

Dave

BIG JOE · 01-05-2012, 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by jtfarns

Hope someone can help. When I start it cold (even if it has been plugged in all night) it will surge at part throttle until it is COMPLETELY warmed up. The only way I have been able to get it clear and run right is to give it a FULL throttle blast down the road. I don't like to have to boot the throttle like that. Has anyone else run into this?? Thanks

What Dave said.. 5W40 is best (full syn is better).. And..

You gota lota things going on while the Cold Start functions are doing their thing.

EBPV could be closed, cutting air of to the turbo.

High idle may be cycling

Fan clutch could be cutting in & out

Try letting it (high) idle for 3-5 minutes before you take off.

Maybe a Duh but....These things Operate off of HEAT.. not much happens right, 'til about 150* of [even] Head temp, oil temp and Coolant temp.

WOT is not a Good Thing.. on a Cold engine ?? JMO

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fordfury · 01-06-2012, 11:06 AM

sounds like your ebpv is coming on and than going off and than on and off. Mine does it tell it gets up to a good warm temp. sometimes it drives me nuts!

Tail_Gunner · 01-06-2012, 11:31 AM

I had a surging when cold issue once upon a time. I could hear a change in the tone of the engine/injectors when it would happen. What would happen was when accelerating on the highway, the engine would seem to momentarily loose a little power amd the engine would get a bit quieter. After a few seconds, the power would return along with the normal sound of the engine.

I guessed that since the tone of the engine/injectors was changing, I thought that maybe it was maybe a HPOP pressure issue. Since the IPR controls the HPOP presure I figured that was a good place to start.

I changed the IPR and never had the problem again. FWIW: They do have o ring kits for the IPR which is a bit cheaper.

jtfarns · 01-06-2012, 05:33 PM

I just got the truck and haven't changed the oil yet.
Having it surge when it is idling is tolerable but when I try to drive it down the road it surges and drives me nuts. I only have a 6 minute commute to work so it does it all the way there. I hate to have to boot the throttle when cold. I will look into the IPR as soon as I look it up and see what and where it is. Thank you all.

Smoky · 01-06-2012, 11:02 PM

Order yourself a Fumoto valve for the truck before you change the oil. It will sure help with future oil changes!

DaveBen · 01-07-2012, 09:08 AM

Diesels like to get HOT and a 6 minute commute will not do it. You will end up getting carbon everywhere if you don't take it out and RUN IT LIKE YOU STOLE IT!!!!! Find a highway and floor it until you get up to speed.

Dave

jeeps and fords · 02-12-2012, 05:46 PM

01-05-2012, 05:50 PM	#1
jtfarns JTFARNS Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: palistow nh Posts: 10 Thanks: 14 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	why does my truck surge?? Hope someone can help. When I start it cold (even if it has been plugged in all night) it will surge at part throttle until it is COMPLETELY warmed up. The only way I have been able to get it clear and run right is to give it a FULL throttle blast down the road. I don't like to have to boot the throttle like that. Has anyone else run into this?? Thanks __________________ 2001 F-350 XLT extended cab long bed. Stancor glow plug relay.

01-05-2012, 06:01 PM	#2
DaveBen SDD Senior Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: Ukiah, California Posts: 7,869 Thanks: 127 Thanked 506 Times in 489 Posts	What oil weight are you running? Maybe too thick for NH. Dave __________________ 2004 F-350 Regular cab with 6.0, Torqshift, 4X4, and just about all of the rest of the options. I added Guages, Satellite Radio, Air Horns, and a coolant filter. Bilstein shocks. Battery Desulphater that really works. Installed Jimmi Jammers. Pictures here: http://community.webshots.com/user/dbennett48 Completely Stock. I had a Detroit Diesel 8V92TA in a KW dump truck in 1980. That sucker would put out 425 hp but would never out pull a CAT.

01-06-2012, 11:06 AM	#4
fordfury redneck punk Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: idaho Posts: 75 Thanks: 1 Thanked 4 Times in 4 Posts View Photos By: fordfury	sounds like your ebpv is coming on and than going off and than on and off. Mine does it tell it gets up to a good warm temp. sometimes it drives me nuts! __________________ 97 f 250 crew cab, 3 in down pipe 4 in back exhaust, afe intake, built trans, diy intercooler and pipes regulated return fuel system, water meth, stg one injectors. 6 pos chip tuned by tyrant

01-06-2012, 11:31 AM	#5
Tail_Gunner CRJ & ERJ A&P Mech. Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Da U.P. Posts: 1,915 Thanks: 97 Thanked 133 Times in 109 Posts View Photos By: Tail_Gunner	I had a surging when cold issue once upon a time. I could hear a change in the tone of the engine/injectors when it would happen. What would happen was when accelerating on the highway, the engine would seem to momentarily loose a little power amd the engine would get a bit quieter. After a few seconds, the power would return along with the normal sound of the engine. I guessed that since the tone of the engine/injectors was changing, I thought that maybe it was maybe a HPOP pressure issue. Since the IPR controls the HPOP presure I figured that was a good place to start. I changed the IPR and never had the problem again. FWIW: They do have o ring kits for the IPR which is a bit cheaper. __________________ Kent FAA certificated A&P mechanic. Graduate of NMU School of Aviation Maintenance Technology. Retired USAF MSgt (E-7) (09/74-10/94) B-52 Gunner/Flight Examiner, 3600+ Flight Hours B-52 Crew Chief Share holding owner Green Bay Packers!! NEW RIDE: 2011 GMC 2500HD DURAMAX/ ALLISON EC/SB, Leer truck cap, Luverne running boards, Rhino liner. WeatherTech floor mats, Remote Start, Edge Insight, backup camera and OEM fog lights. Engine is 100% stock (For now ) SOLD: F-250 early 99 4x4 SD SC longbed, 99.5 PCM, Stage 1 Single Shot Injectors, Dominator 66 turbo from Bean's, Adrenaline HPOP, 99.5+, 6.0 Intercooler, BTS Trans w/ V-10 trans cooelr, MBRP T-304 Stainless 4" exhaust, Ford Air Intake System, Coolant Filter, BD Exhaust Brake, BD TorqLoc, Dynatrac Hub Conversion, 285/75R16 tires. Tuned by Powerhungry Performance- Whisper mode, Fuel Sipper, 65hp Towing, 100 Performance, 120 Racing and a modified stock tune. Tail_gunner's Web shots

01-06-2012, 05:33 PM	#6
jtfarns JTFARNS Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: palistow nh Posts: 10 Thanks: 14 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	I just got the truck and haven't changed the oil yet. Having it surge when it is idling is tolerable but when I try to drive it down the road it surges and drives me nuts. I only have a 6 minute commute to work so it does it all the way there. I hate to have to boot the throttle when cold. I will look into the IPR as soon as I look it up and see what and where it is. Thank you all. __________________ 2001 F-350 XLT extended cab long bed. Stancor glow plug relay.

01-06-2012, 11:02 PM	#7
Smoky SDD Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Mississippi State Posts: 341 Thanks: 14 Thanked 28 Times in 27 Posts View Photos By: Smoky	Order yourself a Fumoto valve for the truck before you change the oil. It will sure help with future oil changes! __________________ 2004 F250 Crew Cab King Ranch Lariat FX4 Saddle Leather 6.0 L FUMOTO Valve AIRAID 4" straight No CAT No MUFF Nitto Terra Grapplers All Terrain LT285/75R16 10 PR Everything else pretty much stock NEW Ranchos installed 8/15/2010 Anyone Got Birds? Will Travel to Hunt! We are all just Village Idiots, Enamoured with our own shadow, Oblivious to the setting sun!

01-07-2012, 09:08 AM	#8
DaveBen SDD Senior Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: Ukiah, California Posts: 7,869 Thanks: 127 Thanked 506 Times in 489 Posts	Diesels like to get HOT and a 6 minute commute will not do it. You will end up getting carbon everywhere if you don't take it out and RUN IT LIKE YOU STOLE IT!!!!! Find a highway and floor it until you get up to speed. Dave __________________ 2004 F-350 Regular cab with 6.0, Torqshift, 4X4, and just about all of the rest of the options. I added Guages, Satellite Radio, Air Horns, and a coolant filter. Bilstein shocks. Battery Desulphater that really works. Installed Jimmi Jammers. Pictures here: http://community.webshots.com/user/dbennett48 Completely Stock. I had a Detroit Diesel 8V92TA in a KW dump truck in 1980. That sucker would put out 425 hp but would never out pull a CAT.

02-12-2012, 05:46 PM	#9
jeeps and fords SDD Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Morrisville/NY Posts: 42 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	__________________ Casey 2000 F-250 XL Crew Cab 7.3l/ Bilstein shocks, ISSPRO 3 gauge pillar. Freshly repainted. AFE cold air intake, Magnaflow dual 4" SS exhaust, DP tuner, and an ATS ported turbo shroud.

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