Help Needed No brakes!!! - F-Series & SuperDuty Diesel Forums

cstewart · 06-21-2009, 05:30 PM

SO we were playin in the mud and when we were leavin as i was pullin onto the road i noticed i had no power steering. . when i went to slow down to make the turn, no brakes!!! any help at all would be appreciated . .i looked and there doesnt appear to be any lines disconnected or major leaks

DaveBen · 06-21-2009, 05:39 PM

Your power steering belt is broken or off the pulleys. The brakes work off of the power steering pump for pressure to boost the braking effect. You will have to replace the belt. Or maybe you toasted the power steering pump.

Dave

stroked 350 · 06-21-2009, 08:08 PM

x2

JLDickmon · 06-21-2009, 08:13 PM

or slopped so much crap on it it is slipping...

open the hood tell us what you see...

Tail_Gunner · 06-21-2009, 09:07 PM

Do you have an OBS??

Superduties have a serp belt, the one belt runs everything, water pump, alt, a/c and power steering.

If you have a Superduty, I'd check the power steering fluid. If it's low/gone add more AUTO TRANNY FLUID!!! These things don't use power steering fluid, but auto trans fluid. At least then you can see were it's coming out from.

cstewart · 06-22-2009, 05:04 PM

so i checked it all out and the pump has got to be toasted cause nothin else seems to be wrong. . guess im on my way to auto zone lol

DaveBen · 06-22-2009, 05:39 PM

cstewart fill out your signature so we all will know what you drive. There is a lot of confusion as to what you drive. Go to the USER CP in the second BLUE line from the top, and fill out your signature.

Dave

cstewart · 06-23-2009, 08:56 PM

sorry guys im not so technology savvy so stuff like that gets complicated lol. . well its is a 2000 f350 with the 7.3. i took off the power steering pump and there is alot of play in it like the pulley moves alot. . b4 i took it off though as long as i kept the rpms up it would work fine so im replacing it

DaveBen · 06-23-2009, 11:04 PM

The pump shaft should not move, other than to turn it. It is shot.

Dave

Zookie400 · 06-24-2009, 10:49 PM

haha!!!! your mudding story sounds like this.....................

me, in my wifes mustang. one LOOOOOOOONNNNG nasty burnout. it sustained 6000rpms for too long, and the pump said "F U i quit". the very next stop sign i found out i had a very hard pedal, and as i was stopped i realized i had no power assist in the steering either.

im guessing you were having a lot of "fun" in that mud pit?

change the pump, especially if it has play....like dave said it should turn only.

06-21-2009, 05:30 PM	#1
cstewart Cameron Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: beaufort, south carolina Posts: 36 Thanks: 7 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts View Photos By: cstewart	No brakes!!! SO we were playin in the mud and when we were leavin as i was pullin onto the road i noticed i had no power steering. . when i went to slow down to make the turn, no brakes!!! any help at all would be appreciated . .i looked and there doesnt appear to be any lines disconnected or major leaks

06-21-2009, 05:39 PM	#2
DaveBen SDD Senior Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: Ukiah, California Posts: 7,596 Thanks: 106 Thanked 459 Times in 445 Posts	Your power steering belt is broken or off the pulleys. The brakes work off of the power steering pump for pressure to boost the braking effect. You will have to replace the belt. Or maybe you toasted the power steering pump. Dave __________________ 2004 F-350 Regular cab with 6.0, Torqshift, 4X4, and just about all of the rest of the options. I added Guages, Satellite Radio, Air Horns, and a coolant filter. Bilstein shocks. Battery Desulphater that really works. Installed Jimmi Jammers. Pictures here: http://community.webshots.com/user/dbennett48 Completely Stock. I had a Detroit Diesel 8V92TA in a KW dump truck in 1980. That sucker would put out 425 hp but would never out pull a CAT.

06-21-2009, 08:08 PM	#3
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06-21-2009, 08:13 PM	#4
JLDickmon ursus combibo Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: 49041 Posts: 3,715 Thanks: 35 Thanked 254 Times in 238 Posts View Photos By: JLDickmon	or slopped so much crap on it it is slipping... open the hood tell us what you see... __________________ John '99 F250 7.3L auto 4wd CC/SB

06-21-2009, 09:07 PM	#5
Tail_Gunner CRJ & ERJ A&P Mech. Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Da U.P. Posts: 1,898 Thanks: 97 Thanked 129 Times in 105 Posts View Photos By: Tail_Gunner	Do you have an OBS?? Superduties have a serp belt, the one belt runs everything, water pump, alt, a/c and power steering. If you have a Superduty, I'd check the power steering fluid. If it's low/gone add more AUTO TRANNY FLUID!!! These things don't use power steering fluid, but auto trans fluid. At least then you can see were it's coming out from. __________________ Kent FAA certificated A&P mechanic. Graduate of NMU School of Aviation Maintenance Technology. Retired USAF MSgt (E-7) (09/74-10/94) B-52 Gunner/Flight Examiner, 3600+ Flight Hours B-52 Crew Chief Share holding owner Green Bay Packers!! NEW RIDE: 2011 GMC 2500HD DURAMAX/ ALLISON EC/SB, Leer truck cap, Luverne running boards, Rhino liner. WeatherTech floor mats, Remote Start, Edge Insight and EOM fog lights. Engine is 100% stock (For now ) SOLD: F-250 early 99 4x4 SD SC longbed, 99.5 PCM, Stage 1 Single Shot Injectors, Dominator 66 turbo from Bean's, Adrenaline HPOP, 99.5+, 6.0 Intercooler, BTS Trans w/ V-10 trans cooelr, MBRP T-304 Stainless 4" exhaust, Ford Air Intake System, Coolant Filter, BD Exhaust Brake, BD TorqLoc, Dynatrac Hub Conversion, 285/75R16 tires. Tuned by Powerhungry Performance- Whisper mode, Fuel Sipper, 65hp Towing, 100 Performance, 120 Racing and a modified stock tune. Tail_gunner's Web shots Last edited by Tail_Gunner; 06-21-2009 at 09:10 PM.

06-22-2009, 05:04 PM	#6
cstewart Cameron Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: beaufort, south carolina Posts: 36 Thanks: 7 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts View Photos By: cstewart	so i checked it all out and the pump has got to be toasted cause nothin else seems to be wrong. . guess im on my way to auto zone lol

06-22-2009, 05:39 PM	#7
DaveBen SDD Senior Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: Ukiah, California Posts: 7,596 Thanks: 106 Thanked 459 Times in 445 Posts	cstewart fill out your signature so we all will know what you drive. There is a lot of confusion as to what you drive. Go to the USER CP in the second BLUE line from the top, and fill out your signature. Dave __________________ 2004 F-350 Regular cab with 6.0, Torqshift, 4X4, and just about all of the rest of the options. I added Guages, Satellite Radio, Air Horns, and a coolant filter. Bilstein shocks. Battery Desulphater that really works. Installed Jimmi Jammers. Pictures here: http://community.webshots.com/user/dbennett48 Completely Stock. I had a Detroit Diesel 8V92TA in a KW dump truck in 1980. That sucker would put out 425 hp but would never out pull a CAT.

06-23-2009, 08:56 PM	#8
cstewart Cameron Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: beaufort, south carolina Posts: 36 Thanks: 7 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts View Photos By: cstewart	sorry guys im not so technology savvy so stuff like that gets complicated lol. . well its is a 2000 f350 with the 7.3. i took off the power steering pump and there is alot of play in it like the pulley moves alot. . b4 i took it off though as long as i kept the rpms up it would work fine so im replacing it __________________ 2000 f-350 7.3, diy tymar intake 6637 filter, ts performance chip with tony wildman tunes, dieselsite's boost relief valve,wicked wheel,CCV MOD, 4 inch exhaust, autometer phantom II boost and egt gauges, WARN premium locking hubs, 3 inch lift, pro comp black chrome 17's, pro comp xtreme all terrains 35x12.50's

06-23-2009, 11:04 PM	#9
DaveBen SDD Senior Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: Ukiah, California Posts: 7,596 Thanks: 106 Thanked 459 Times in 445 Posts	The pump shaft should not move, other than to turn it. It is shot. Dave __________________ 2004 F-350 Regular cab with 6.0, Torqshift, 4X4, and just about all of the rest of the options. I added Guages, Satellite Radio, Air Horns, and a coolant filter. Bilstein shocks. Battery Desulphater that really works. Installed Jimmi Jammers. Pictures here: http://community.webshots.com/user/dbennett48 Completely Stock. I had a Detroit Diesel 8V92TA in a KW dump truck in 1980. That sucker would put out 425 hp but would never out pull a CAT.

06-24-2009, 10:49 PM	#10
Zookie400 I WANNA GO FAST Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: wallingford, CT Posts: 1,663 Thanks: 12 Thanked 45 Times in 39 Posts	haha!!!! your mudding story sounds like this..................... me, in my wifes mustang. one LOOOOOOOONNNNG nasty burnout. it sustained 6000rpms for too long, and the pump said "F U i quit". the very next stop sign i found out i had a very hard pedal, and as i was stopped i realized i had no power assist in the steering either. im guessing you were having a lot of "fun" in that mud pit? change the pump, especially if it has play....like dave said it should turn only. __________________ There is a replacement for displacement, its called volumetric efficiency. THE MILLENIUM ZOOKWAGON: 97 F-350 4x4 85 BRONCO, 01 MUSTANG GT, 03 SUZUKI LTZ 400, 82 YAMAHA XJ750 SECA MY YOUTUBE VIDEOS!

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