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tankerdude · 12-14-2011, 02:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ADV BUM

Thanks DaveBen for the explanation of gelling. Makes perfect sense now. I had planned on taking the truck to a shop today, but ending up having to shovel the fresh powder. 14" so far with more snow on the way. Great weather for my snowboarding addiction, but without a truck to get me to the lift, I'm stuck shoveling it instead.

I guess I should've said that the 5,000 mile oil change is right from the Ford horse's mouth. 5k for "normal" driving conditions, 3k for "severe duty" conditions, which includes lots-o-dust and/or heavy towing most of the time.

If you're going to use Power Service, the white jug (also available at Wally World) is the one you want for cold weather... it's the anti-gel version of what's in the silver jug.

Also, Power Service makes another product called Diesel 911. It comes in a red jug. This stuff works... the fuel in my semi was gelled up last winter for the first time EVER. Poured that stuff in the tank, and a little more directly into the filter. I stood there and watched this stuff work it's magic. I could actually SEE the gelled fuel returning to a liquid. I carry a jug of that with me in my PSD and in the semi.

f100cleveland · 12-14-2011, 07:52 PM

I use Howe's anti-gell in my diesels and haven't had gelling issues. You can find it and Power service at truck stops most anywhere. I carry the 911 with me in the winter too. If your truck starts to feel slugish in real cold weather you can stop and dump some in right away instead of being dead on the road. It is for emergency use not every day use.

ADV BUM · 12-16-2011, 12:55 AM

I appreciate all the advice on this problem.

Question about gelling...if the truck starts fine in the am, when its the coldest right now, would that still be a gelling issue. The problem seems to be after its ran for 15-30 minutes driving then shut down, it won't idle properly when re-started.

I apologize for asking so many questions about gelling, I just don't anything about this problem.

f100cleveland · 12-16-2011, 07:07 PM

I know of several trucks that started up last year on cold mornings and never made it 5 miles before gelling up. It might not be your problem but if you weren't running blended fuel or an antigell additive give them a chance with a new set of filters.

BIG JOE · 12-16-2011, 07:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ADV BUM

I appreciate all the advice on this problem.

Question about gelling...if the truck starts fine in the am, when its the coldest right now, would that still be a gelling issue. The problem seems to be after its ran for 15-30 minutes driving then shut down, it won't idle properly when re-started.

I apologize for asking so many questions about gelling, I just don't anything about this problem.

Quote:

Originally Posted by f100cleveland

I know of several trucks that started up last year on cold mornings and never made it 5 miles before gelling up. It might not be your problem but if you weren't running blended fuel or an anti gel additive give them a chance with a new set of filters.

ADV BUM,

What f100 said, and you might want to change your fuel filters, then treat your fuel with anti-gell.. for the rest of the Winter ?

In COLD weather, even after a successful start-up.. as you drive in Ice & Snow, the ice & snow can build up in the frame rails (where the fuel lines are).. and cause gelling.. miles down the road. Not to mention Wind Chill effects.

When/if gelling has occurred, particles and waxes come out of suspension and collect on the filter mediums. Even after a warm up, or treatment.. those contaminants are still there.

A new set of filters.. and some anti-gel is in order ????

Joe

ADV BUM · 12-19-2011, 12:36 AM

I'm gonna try the anti-gelling stuff and new fuel filters that alot of guys are suggesting and see if that works. I never thought of the gelling issue along the frame from all the snow and ice spray. Thanks for that enlightenment BIG JOE.

BIG JOE · 12-19-2011, 01:15 AM

It's all part of what we're all about here..

ADV BUM · 12-30-2011, 07:47 PM

Hey Everyone,

Well, I tried the ant-gelling stuff and two new fuel filters and no positive reaction from my truck. It still ran the same way. So after the busy week, we all know as Christmas, I got the truck to the dealership. At first, they could not find a problem, no DTC codes. So while it was there I had them replace a solenoid on the transfer case, while doing this they stated the truck was acting as I described. They stated they would do some diagnostics on it (at $92 an hour

)

Got a call saying my #2 injector was going out and my ICP was shot. I am gonna pick it up and have a friend whom is a old Ford diesel mechanic do the work for much cheaper

.

I will continue to use the anti-gelling additive as you guess suggested and am curious if anyone has heard of hotshot additive that supposedly cleans the injectors? It maybe too late for my #2 injector, but if I can keep the other ones in tip top shape, maybe I'll have some money left over for some 6.0 bulletproofing!

Dogman · 12-31-2011, 11:58 AM

I used the hotshot in my 6.0 and it fixed my injector problem for 2 years. Then I needed to replace them. But it does work. You'll see a change almost right away in start up.

trailey97 · 03-06-2012, 07:54 AM

a little late here but i thought i would chime in with a smart ace remark....lol...
move south, we dont gel up!! lol

glad you got your problem fixed though!!

12-14-2011, 07:52 PM	#12
f100cleveland When In Doubt,THROTTLE ON Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Southern Minnesota Posts: 630 Thanks: 9 Thanked 14 Times in 14 Posts View Photos By: f100cleveland	I use Howe's anti-gell in my diesels and haven't had gelling issues. You can find it and Power service at truck stops most anywhere. I carry the 911 with me in the winter too. If your truck starts to feel slugish in real cold weather you can stop and dump some in right away instead of being dead on the road. It is for emergency use not every day use. __________________ 2006 F-350SD XLT 6.0 auto CC SB 4x4, Chrome kit, Tube step mod, Superlift leveling kit, 35/12.50 pro comp extreme AT, AFE SS 4" turbo back with muffler delete, Volant cold air intake with proguard 7 filter, Edge Insight Monitor, SCT X-3 with DJ's, DP's, and Inovative's custum tunes http://www.supermotors.net/registry/6723

12-16-2011, 07:07 PM	#14
f100cleveland When In Doubt,THROTTLE ON Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Southern Minnesota Posts: 630 Thanks: 9 Thanked 14 Times in 14 Posts View Photos By: f100cleveland	I know of several trucks that started up last year on cold mornings and never made it 5 miles before gelling up. It might not be your problem but if you weren't running blended fuel or an antigell additive give them a chance with a new set of filters. __________________ 2006 F-350SD XLT 6.0 auto CC SB 4x4, Chrome kit, Tube step mod, Superlift leveling kit, 35/12.50 pro comp extreme AT, AFE SS 4" turbo back with muffler delete, Volant cold air intake with proguard 7 filter, Edge Insight Monitor, SCT X-3 with DJ's, DP's, and Inovative's custum tunes http://www.supermotors.net/registry/6723

12-31-2011, 11:58 AM	#19
Dogman Dogman Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: tampa,FL Posts: 1,336 Thanks: 2 Thanked 104 Times in 90 Posts	I used the hotshot in my 6.0 and it fixed my injector problem for 2 years. Then I needed to replace them. But it does work. You'll see a change almost right away in start up. __________________ 2008 F-250 All stock so far...LOL 1999 Jeep TJ play toy on 32" tires custom bumpers by me Last edited by Dogman; 12-31-2011 at 12:00 PM.

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12-16-2011, 12:55 AM	#13
ADV BUM SDD Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: North of There Posts: 11 Thanks: 1 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	I appreciate all the advice on this problem. Question about gelling...if the truck starts fine in the am, when its the coldest right now, would that still be a gelling issue. The problem seems to be after its ran for 15-30 minutes driving then shut down, it won't idle properly when re-started. I apologize for asking so many questions about gelling, I just don't anything about this problem.

12-19-2011, 12:36 AM	#16
ADV BUM SDD Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: North of There Posts: 11 Thanks: 1 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	I'm gonna try the anti-gelling stuff and new fuel filters that alot of guys are suggesting and see if that works. I never thought of the gelling issue along the frame from all the snow and ice spray. Thanks for that enlightenment BIG JOE.

12-19-2011, 01:15 AM	#17
BIG JOE SDD Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: CenCal Posts: 4,377 Thanks: 101 Thanked 392 Times in 381 Posts	It's all part of what we're all about here..

12-30-2011, 07:47 PM	#18
ADV BUM SDD Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: North of There Posts: 11 Thanks: 1 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Hey Everyone, Well, I tried the ant-gelling stuff and two new fuel filters and no positive reaction from my truck. It still ran the same way. So after the busy week, we all know as Christmas, I got the truck to the dealership. At first, they could not find a problem, no DTC codes. So while it was there I had them replace a solenoid on the transfer case, while doing this they stated the truck was acting as I described. They stated they would do some diagnostics on it (at $92 an hour ) Got a call saying my #2 injector was going out and my ICP was shot. I am gonna pick it up and have a friend whom is a old Ford diesel mechanic do the work for much cheaper . I will continue to use the anti-gelling additive as you guess suggested and am curious if anyone has heard of hotshot additive that supposedly cleans the injectors? It maybe too late for my #2 injector, but if I can keep the other ones in tip top shape, maybe I'll have some money left over for some 6.0 bulletproofing!

03-06-2012, 07:54 AM	#20
trailey97 SDD Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Texas Posts: 97 Thanks: 2 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	a little late here but i thought i would chime in with a smart ace remark....lol... move south, we dont gel up!! lol glad you got your problem fixed though!!