Off-road fuel - F-Series & SuperDuty Diesel Forums

NevrKnow · 06-10-2009, 07:52 AM

I had a thought this am. ( scary I know). Isn't off-road diesel high sulfur? ( ie we can run it in our older PSD's ( pre 2007 ) without having to add an additive ( and its cheaper)? Or will it mess something up? I have no idea so I thought I'd ask someone who knows more than me, my friends here @ superduty.

Anyone tried this? or thoughts on the matter?

Tbar · 06-10-2009, 08:47 AM

Should burn fine...........as will the $10k fine if you get caught.

Tbar

Zookie400 · 06-10-2009, 08:48 AM

after talking to a gentleman that runs a station out of New Haven terminal, i was told there is NO high sulfur fuel in the terminal. he was explaining that #2 was low sulfur, and if it was for offroad they throw in some red dye.

i'm sure you can find it somewhere, but i dont think any readily available red fuel would be 500ppm.

BIG JOE · 06-10-2009, 11:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tbar

Should burn fine...........as will the $10k fine if you get caught.

Tbar

X2. For the Public.. It's ALL ULSC #2 anymore.

The Only difference between On & Off road #2 is the Taxes and the Color (red).. and the Fine for using the Off Road, On road. A $10,000.00 fine, and it doesn't stop there.. Possible, Impound, Towing, Storage, Admin/Assessment (per gallon) fees.. while you go through the "Process".. If you get caught.... to get yer truck back. (here in Caly anyway)

SOooo.. It just Aint worth it ? Maybe ?

NevrKnow · 06-10-2009, 03:10 PM

well it was just a thought. No such thing as a dumb question, just dumb people

BIG JOE · 06-10-2009, 06:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NevrKnow

well it was just a thought. No such thing as a dumb question, just dumb people

The only reason I was so TMI & Wordy about it is, A Cotton Grower friend of mine got caught, several years ago.. with Agra Dezel in his pick-up after being stopped by the Commercial CHP guyz.. only cost him $1500.00 back then..but his Pick-up was subject to "Random Inspection" (Pee Test) for 2 years.

It's REAL UGLY now though.

Jimmy Tanner · 06-10-2009, 07:50 PM

If one could get the Off-Road Diesel into their truck without being seen then I wonder how they could get caught?

Just thinking out of the box. For example, if one had a 5er with a diesel generator then they could fill their 50 gallon tank and around midnight, out in the middle of nowhere when no one is watching, do a little transfer into the ole SD. $.25 a gallon times 30 gallons equals $7.50--half a box of beer!

There has to be an ole 50 gallon tank here somewhere.

DaveBen · 06-10-2009, 08:42 PM

They stick your tank. At least here in Cali and other states. I don't know about Va. They siphon out a little bit of fuel and test it for the Red Dye. It will stay around for several tank fulls after the initial dose of Red fuel.

Dave

WD40 · 06-11-2009, 03:25 AM

Yep, that RED Dye is some strong stuff and it will be around, and is easy to spot by the feds, because they know where to look for signs that it leaves behind.
It's just not worth the cost if you get caught.
Doug

Yooper75 · 06-11-2009, 12:30 PM

I did this last fall by accident I was talking to my wife and grabbed the off road hose instead of the on road which was right next to it and then proceeded to fill my tank full of off road diesel. Needless to say my truck was driven alot in the following days to get that stuff out of the truck as fast as I could and I felt like an idiot because it was such a rookie mistake to make.

06-10-2009, 07:52 AM	#1
NevrKnow SDD Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Aiken,SC Posts: 380 Thanks: 43 Thanked 36 Times in 36 Posts View Photos By: NevrKnow	Off-road fuel I had a thought this am. ( scary I know). Isn't off-road diesel high sulfur? ( ie we can run it in our older PSD's ( pre 2007 ) without having to add an additive ( and its cheaper)? Or will it mess something up? I have no idea so I thought I'd ask someone who knows more than me, my friends here @ superduty. Anyone tried this? or thoughts on the matter? __________________ 2002 F-250 SD Lariat CC 4x4 7.3L automatic. Dp-Tuner F5 .....stock, 60 Tow, 80 E, 120 race Underdash gauge pod with ISSPRO gauges. Zoodad. AIH delete. DIY Tymar filter. Sonnax Kit. 4" turbo back straight exhaust and 4-6" Silverline chrome tip. 20" wheels '08 aluminum rear diff cover. Chrome front diff cover ( UPDATED ) Chrome cover gone Brand new SOLID AXLE front cover. A/C Mod Thanks to ALL SDD members for their support and answers to my newb questions!

06-10-2009, 08:48 AM	#3
Zookie400 I WANNA GO FAST Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: wallingford, CT Posts: 1,663 Thanks: 12 Thanked 45 Times in 39 Posts	after talking to a gentleman that runs a station out of New Haven terminal, i was told there is NO high sulfur fuel in the terminal. he was explaining that #2 was low sulfur, and if it was for offroad they throw in some red dye. i'm sure you can find it somewhere, but i dont think any readily available red fuel would be 500ppm. __________________ There is a replacement for displacement, its called volumetric efficiency. THE MILLENIUM ZOOKWAGON: 97 F-350 4x4 85 BRONCO, 01 MUSTANG GT, 03 SUZUKI LTZ 400, 82 YAMAHA XJ750 SECA MY YOUTUBE VIDEOS!

06-10-2009, 03:10 PM	#5
NevrKnow SDD Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Aiken,SC Posts: 380 Thanks: 43 Thanked 36 Times in 36 Posts View Photos By: NevrKnow	well it was just a thought. No such thing as a dumb question, just dumb people __________________ 2002 F-250 SD Lariat CC 4x4 7.3L automatic. Dp-Tuner F5 .....stock, 60 Tow, 80 E, 120 race Underdash gauge pod with ISSPRO gauges. Zoodad. AIH delete. DIY Tymar filter. Sonnax Kit. 4" turbo back straight exhaust and 4-6" Silverline chrome tip. 20" wheels '08 aluminum rear diff cover. Chrome front diff cover ( UPDATED ) Chrome cover gone Brand new SOLID AXLE front cover. A/C Mod Thanks to ALL SDD members for their support and answers to my newb questions!

06-10-2009, 08:42 PM	#8
DaveBen SDD Senior Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: Ukiah, California Posts: 7,596 Thanks: 106 Thanked 459 Times in 445 Posts	They stick your tank. At least here in Cali and other states. I don't know about Va. They siphon out a little bit of fuel and test it for the Red Dye. It will stay around for several tank fulls after the initial dose of Red fuel. Dave __________________ 2004 F-350 Regular cab with 6.0, Torqshift, 4X4, and just about all of the rest of the options. I added Guages, Satellite Radio, Air Horns, and a coolant filter. Bilstein shocks. Battery Desulphater that really works. Installed Jimmi Jammers. Pictures here: http://community.webshots.com/user/dbennett48 Completely Stock. I had a Detroit Diesel 8V92TA in a KW dump truck in 1980. That sucker would put out 425 hp but would never out pull a CAT.

06-11-2009, 03:25 AM	#9
WD40 SDD Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Benton Arkansas & McAllen Posts: 2,654 Thanks: 55 Thanked 99 Times in 95 Posts View Photos By: WD40	Yep, that RED Dye is some strong stuff and it will be around, and is easy to spot by the feds, because they know where to look for signs that it leaves behind. It's just not worth the cost if you get caught. Doug __________________ 2006 Ford F-350 Crew Cab Lariat 4X2 PSD 6.0 TorqShift Automatic Transmission, MAG-HYTEC DIFF COVERS Bama ZooDad If you think the 6.0 is bad.....Get a 6.4 2004 35 ft Hitch Hiker 16589 EW. Doug Is it time to go camping yet?

06-10-2009, 08:47 AM	#2
Tbar SDD STAFF/Moderator Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Texas Posts: 2,538 Thanks: 6 Thanked 33 Times in 33 Posts View Photos By: Tbar	Should burn fine...........as will the $10k fine if you get caught. Tbar __________________ 99.5 F250, White, CC, PS, Auto, 4X4, 3.73, NVK3, 4"exhaust, Twildman 4-position chip, 3-piller mt w/Ispro gauges, VDO oil pressure gauge, Amsoil Lubs, Coolant Filter, Racor445, Zoodad, TC Lock Up, Bilstien Shocks, Cab Lights Hooked to Turn Signals, Side Marker Lights Hooked to Turn Signals, Hutch Fuel Line Repair #1 & #2, Harponed Fuel Tank, Tymar HPX, Garmin GPS-V, Glasstite Topper, Rugged Gear Gun Mt, Procomp Steering Stabilizer, Fumoto Drain Valve, JNB Fuel Mod, AFE Air Filter, Kenwood TM-D700 dual band radio, 7902 LB Curb wt, NORTHTEXASPOWERSTROKES.com

06-10-2009, 07:50 PM	#7
Jimmy Tanner SDD Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Alexandria VA Posts: 63 Thanks: 8 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	If one could get the Off-Road Diesel into their truck without being seen then I wonder how they could get caught? Just thinking out of the box. For example, if one had a 5er with a diesel generator then they could fill their 50 gallon tank and around midnight, out in the middle of nowhere when no one is watching, do a little transfer into the ole SD. $.25 a gallon times 30 gallons equals $7.50--half a box of beer! There has to be an ole 50 gallon tank here somewhere.

06-11-2009, 12:30 PM	#10
Yooper75 Boost Junky Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Michigans Upper Pennisula Posts: 322 Thanks: 23 Thanked 34 Times in 31 Posts	I did this last fall by accident I was talking to my wife and grabbed the off road hose instead of the on road which was right next to it and then proceeded to fill my tank full of off road diesel. Needless to say my truck was driven alot in the following days to get that stuff out of the truck as fast as I could and I felt like an idiot because it was such a rookie mistake to make. __________________ Dave 2006 F350 FX4 CC 6.0 PSD Some stock stuff and some not so stock stuff.....

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