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JLDickmon

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I must say, the treatment of fallen service members by the Honor Detail is top drawer.

They escorted my Mom from the limo, then explained at every step what each portion of the ceremony stood for.

Dad did get a salute of seven members of the detail, each firing three rounds. The Funeral Home employee collected them for the family. Mom was presented with three ceremonial rounds, representing Dad's birth, his service, and his passing.

When the bugler played Taps, I could not have been more proud of the old man.

I never knew the folding of the flag had so many meanings; Spirit of the deceased entering the flag, what the colors mean to servicemen (I was always taught they stand for Valor, Purity, and Justice).

I absolutely lost it when the Sergeant knelt and presented the flag to Mom and said, "This flag is presented on behalf of a grateful nation and the United States Army as a token of appreciation for your loved one’s honorable and faithful service."
 

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I must say, the treatment of fallen service members by the Honor Detail is top drawer.

They escorted my Mom from the limo, then explained at every step what each portion of the ceremony stood for.

Dad did get a salute of seven members of the detail, each firing three rounds. The Funeral Home employee collected them for the family. Mom was presented with three ceremonial rounds, representing Dad's birth, his service, and his passing.

When the bugler played Taps, I could not have been more proud of the old man.

I never knew the folding of the flag had so many meanings; Spirit of the deceased entering the flag, what the colors mean to servicemen (I was always taught they stand for Valor, Purity, and Justice).

I absolutely lost it when the Sergeant knelt and presented the flag to Mom and said, "This flag is presented on behalf of a grateful nation and the United States Army as a token of appreciation for your loved one’s honorable and faithful service."

AS IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN JOHN, AND AS IT SHOULD ALWAYS BE

Your Father had the Right, and Deserved, the very best this Nation has to offer.. as a final Salute... To A Fallen Veteran.

Joe
(Retired Navy)
 
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Sounds like your dad got a great send off.
Hope our country will always do this for our fallen heroes.
Our servermen and women gave so much.
Thanks to men like your dad we have our freedom.
Doug
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I absolutely lost it when the Sergeant knelt and presented the flag to Mom and said, "This flag is presented on behalf of a grateful nation and the United States Army as a token of appreciation for your loved one’s honorable and faithful service."


I know exactly how you felt. I had a hard time keeping my composure too when the same ceremony was performed at my father-in-laws funeral last week. Again my condolences on the loss of your dad.
 

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Another story... same subject...

I did not witness THIS story myself, but while working for AA for 14 years, I did witness similar events.



Subject: Flight Report

A pilot (who wishes to remain anonymous) for a commercial airline writes:

My lead flight attendant came to me and said, "We have H.R. on this flight." (H.R. Stands for human remains.)

"Are they military?" I asked.

'Yes', she said.

'Is there an escort?' I asked.

'Yes, I already assigned him a seat'.

'Would you please tell him to come to the flight deck. You can board him early," I said.

A short while later, a young army sergeant entered the flight deck.
He was the image of the perfectly dressed soldier.
He introduced himself and I asked him about his soldier.
The escorts of these fallen soldiers talk about them as if they are still alive and still with us.

'My soldier is on his way back to Virginia ,' he said.

He proceeded to answer my questions, but offered no words.

I asked him if there was anything I could do for him and he said no.

I told him that he had the toughest job in the military and that I appreciated the work that he does for the families of our fallen soldiers.

The first officer and I got up out of our seats to shake his hand.

He left the flight deck to find his seat.

We completed our preflight checks, pushed back and performed an uneventful departure.
About 30 minutes into our flight I received a call from the lead flight attendant in the cabin.

'I just found out the family of the soldier we are carrying is on board', she said.
She then proceeded to tell me that the father, mother, wife and 2-year old daughter were escorting their son, husband, and father home.

The family was upset because they were unable to see the container that the soldier was in before we left.
We were on our way to a major hub at which the family was going to wait four hours for the connecting flight home to Virginia.

The father of the soldier told the flight attendant that knowing his son was below him in the cargo compartment and being unable to see him was too much for him and the family to bear.
He had asked the flight attendant if there was anything that could be done to allow them to see him upon our arrival.
The family wanted to be outside by the cargo door to watch the soldier being taken off the airplane.

I could hear the desperation in the flight attendants voice when she asked me if there was anything I could do.

'I'm on it', I said. I told her that I would get back to her.

Airborne communication with my company normally occurs in the form of e-mail like messages.
I decided to bypass this system and contact my flight dispatcher directly on a secondary radio.
There is a radio operator in the operations control center who connects you to the telephone of the dispatcher.

I was in direct contact with the dispatcher.
I explained the situation I had on board with the family and what it was the family wanted.
He said he understood and that he would get back to me.

Two hours went by and I had not heard from the dispatcher.
We were going to get busy soon and I needed to know what to tell the family.

I sent a text message asking for an update.
I saved the return message from the dispatcher and the following is the text:

'Captain, sorry it has taken so long to get back to you. There is policy on this now and I had to check on a few things.
Upon your arrival a dedicated escort team will meet the aircraft. The team will escort the family to the ramp and plane side. A van will be used to load the remains with a secondary van for the family. The family will be taken to their departure area and escorted into the terminal where the remains can be seen on the ramp. It is a private area for the family only. When the connecting aircraft arrives, the family will be escorted onto the ramp and plane side to watch the remains being loaded for the final leg home. Captain, most of us here in flight control are veterans.
Please pass our condolences on to the family. Thanks.'


I sent a message back telling flight control thanks for a good job. I printed out the message and gave it to the lead flight attendant to pass on to the father.
The lead flight attendant was very thankful and told me, 'You have no idea how much this will mean to them.'

Things started getting busy for the descent, approach and landing.
After landing, we cleared the runway and taxied to the ramp area. The ramp is huge with 15 gates on either side of the alleyway. It is always a busy area with aircraft maneuvering every which way to enter and exit. When we entered the
ramp and checked in with the ramp controller, we were told that all traffic was being held for us.

'There is a team in place to meet the aircraft', we were told. It looked like it was all coming together, then I realized that once we turned the seat belt sign off, everyone would stand up at once and delay the family from getting off the airplane.

As we approached our gate, I asked the copilot to tell the ramp controller we were going to stop short of the gate to make an announcement to the passengers. He did that and the ramp controller said, 'Take your time.'

I stopped the aircraft and set the parking brake.
I pushed the public address button and said, 'Ladies and gentleman, this is your Captain speaking. I have stopped short of our gate to make a special announcement. We have a passenger on board who deserves our honor and respect. His name is Private ******, a soldier who recently lost his life. Private ****** is under your feet in the cargo hold. Escorting him today is Army Sergeant ******X. Also, on board are his father, mother, wife, and daughter. Your entire flight crew is asking for all passengers to remain in their seats to allow the family to exit the aircraft first. Thank you.'

We continued the turn to the gate, came to a stop and started our shutdown procedures.
A couple of minutes later I opened the cockpit door.
I found the two forward flight attendants crying, something you just do not see. I was told that after we came to a stop, every passenger on the aircraft stayed in their seats, waiting for the family to exit the aircraft.

When the family got up and gathered their things, a passenger slowly started to clap his hands. Moments later more passengers joined in and soon the entire aircraft was clapping.
Words of 'God Bless You', I'm sorry, thank you, be proud, and other kind words were uttered to the family as they made their way down the aisle and out of the airplane.

They were escorted down to the ramp to finally be with their loved one.

Many of the passengers disembarking thanked me for the announcement I had made.
They were just words, I told them, I could say them over and over again, but nothing I say will bring back that brave soldier.

I respectfully ask that all of you reflect on this event and the sacrifices that millions of our men and women have made to ensure our freedom and safety in these United States of AMERICA.




Foot note:

I know every one who has served their country who reads this will have tears in their eyes, including me.

They die for me and mine and you and yours and deserve our honor and respect.

'Lord, hold our troops in your loving hands. Protect them as they protect us. Bless them and their families for the selfless acts they perform for us in our time of need. In Jesus name, Amen.'

When you receive this, please stop for a moment and say a prayer for our troops around the world.

Of all the gifts you could give a Marine, Soldier, Sailor, Airman, & others deployed in harm's way, prayer is the very best one.
 
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Thank you tunkerdude for posting that.

I had the Honor and Privilege, albeit Sad, of serving as an H.R. Escort.. Several times during my Navy Career.. I can attest to the way All the Airlines handle these situations, and requirements.. It was ALLWAYS.. To The Letter, and beyond in many cases.
 
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AS IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN JOHN, AND AS IT SHOULD ALWAYS BE

Your Father had the Right, and Deserved, the very best this Nation has to offer.. as a final Salute... To A Fallen Veteran.

Joe
(Retired Navy)

yes sir
then the tears always sneak out

good to hear it was done right
 

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AS IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN JOHN, AND AS IT SHOULD ALWAYS BE

Your Father had the Right, and Deserved, the very best this Nation has to offer.. as a final Salute... To A Fallen Veteran.

Joe
(Retired Navy)

Amen. Our prayers go out to your family.
 

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