HELP!! She's bleeding out!!

[Fire1]

OK the good news is I just got back from a quick trip to San Antonio and on the return trip I logged my best 1 tank MPG ever of 22.2 MPG. Woo Hoo! That was with the chip on the highest setting @ 65mph.

Now the bad news and my question. After unpacking an moving the truck I find an oil spot the size of a large poodle. I look under the truck and everything from the bellhousing back is COVERED in oil. I look at the top of the engine and find oil in the valley area. On the passenger side of the Turbo pedistal I see some oil type residue. So is this like the Turbo Peidistal O-rings?? If this is likely the cause, how hard are they to change and do dealerships usually have them in stock? And other than the wicked wheel, anything else I should do if I have the Turbo off?? Any info and tips are appreciated.

 

[sagebel]

The dealer should have them in stock. They come 2 per bag. The supply and return o-rings are different size. The most difficult part will be getting the clamp off the up-pipe. It is a real pita. Don't forget to disconnect the EBPV actuator rod. I pulled and pulled on my turbo until I finally went back and read the instructions Also check to see if the seal around the EBPV actuator is leaking. When you re-install the turbo, mount it on the pedestal squarely without slidding it around so that you do not damage the o-rings. I started both mounting bolts then re-attached the EBPV actuator arm (unless you decide to gut it while it is off). My first time it took me 4 hours. It was 1 just for the damn up-pipe clamp. Now I can do a R&R in 2.

Scott

 

[Crumm]

Could very well be the turbo pedestal o-rings but it sounds like a quite a bit of oil for it to be them. They usually leak and drip when they start leaking but I haven't heard of them coating the whole underside of the truck. Are you sure it is oil and not fuel? Once fuel leaks out into the valley it starts looking a quite a bit like oil. Is your oil level low? Take a good sniff and make sure it is not fuel. If it is fuel the o-rings in your fuel bowl drain valve have failed. The drain valve is a very common spot to spring a leak, they all do sooner or later.

 

[Fire1]

It did not smell at all like Diesel fuel. I could not check the oil accurately last night as the truck was on a hill, but the level showed Full still then. I will check again today and see. I am going to poke around today while at work and see if I can tell more acurately where the leak is. Thanks guys for your help so far. Keep tha advice coming.

Could very well be the turbo pedestal o-rings but it sounds like a quite a bit of oil for it to be them. They usually leak and drip when they start leaking but I haven't heard of them coating the whole underside of the truck. Are you sure it is oil and not fuel? Once fuel leaks out into the valley it starts looking a quite a bit like oil. Is your oil level low? Take a good sniff and make sure it is not fuel. If it is fuel the o-rings in your fuel bowl drain valve have failed. The drain valve is a very common spot to spring a leak, they all do sooner or later.

 

[Fire1]

Took another look this AM. Oil is down about half way in the marked area. The EPBV actuator rod has oily residue on it all the way to where it comes out of the base. I say residue because it is not fresh shiney oil look. But it does not appear to be coming from between the turbo and the Aluminum pedistal area. That is the best I can tell with everything in place on the truck. Does this help diagnosis? Any ideas?

 

[CPUNeck]

HPOP O-rings

Well, sounds to me like classic high pressure O-ring leakage. That is a lot of oil. Try arming yourself with a nice bright flashlight, start the engine, (ensure you don't have any items hanging from your neck/loose clothing), climb over the radiator and take a good look at the driverside of the fuel pump housing... right below the lines going into the filter bowl you'll see a couple of hydrolic looking hose connected right below the filter housing (HPOP) If I was a bettin man, I'd bet you'll see oil coming out around one of those hoses, and if not around the hose, you'd see oil running from that area down into the valley.

You'd have a hard time believing just how much and how fast a leak there could render your mighty capable steed, into a 8k pound highway anchor. I don't have the International numbers right off, but I understand the cost is orders of magnitude less for them opposed to Ford's. (like a buck a piece form International, I ponied up close to $30 for the "kit" from Ford) Hope this helps, keep us up to date.

 

[Fire1]

Today at the Fire Station I was able to degrease the top side of the engine and then run it at high idle looking for leaks. I could find NO fresh oil leaks after degreasing. The HPOP are and hoses were clean and clear. Other that left over accumulation in the valley the only other place I saw any oil was at the Turbo Pedistal and EBPV area. It was left over that did not wash free form degreasing. But it was NOT there 2 days ago before all this occured. So now how do I diagnose between the Turbo Pedistal o-rings and the EBPV?? Thank to all for there helps so far. I am stressing out over this.

 

[jlayne]

have you checked rear main, oil pan, drain plug, oil filter?

sounds like to me you have ruled out the top half as leaking

 

[Snowman269]

I used an electrical contact cleaner to track down my leak a month ago. The Contact cleaner removes all oil and left everything kinda white like a light chalk residue. Made it real easy to see just where the oil was coming from (HX mod) and since I retorqued the fittings, no more leak. Now I just check with a flashlight every so often & still can see no oil leaks.

I cleaned off the driveway with muriatic acid and am pleased to say all is well.

I went with the "KCP" HX Mod with a stainless steel tube instead of hose and believe it is the long term answer, time will tell.

 

[jlayne]

what is kcp?