Article SDD Amsoil Synthetics Test

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  1. MJ Synthetics

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    Volunteer needed!

    I would like to do a test here on SDD for everybody to see and watch the results unfold before our eyes. I would need to get a volunteer that does not currently use synthetic oils but have been thinking of switching to synthetics and extending their Oil Change Interval (OCI) such as Frankenstein. You may have been skeptical about doing such a switch and extending OCI to this point because the 6.0L PSD is known to shear oil down very fast.

    If you want to make the switch to synthetic for this test and are willing to post your lab results as well as add your personal commentary for all of us to see I want to talk to you. Please PM me and lets talk about doing this with your truck.

    You would normally buy oil to do your oil changes anyway so I will supply you the oil and a filter (if you choose to use the Filter from me) at dealer cost (the price I pay for it). To make things easier for sampling I will give you a Fumoto Valve to install on your oil pan to make taking samples much easier and cleaner. I will pay for 5 lab tests (20.00 fees) if you want to have a TBN test you pay the 10.00 additional for that and you pay the shipping costs for the tests. You post each lab result here for all to see and add your commentary if any. Once your lab results are posted I will pay you the 20.00 for that lab fee or we can settle up at the end of the test. This will allow you to figure out if you can get 10k or more out of the oil safely using the lab as the guide. We can all watch the oil shear down together and see how far it goes and if the lab says to change the oil during the test you change unless we get to 15k then you change anyway. We will use Blackstone Labs for this test because they would be an unbiased testing facility and you will get a commentary about your oil from their resident expert.




    Criteria;

    • You must have a Ford Powerstroke Diesel 6.0L engine.
    • You must not currently use synthetic oil in your engine.
    • You must be willing to go at least 10k miles on this one oil change as long as the lab says your oil is good and to continue use.
    • You must currently not have gone more than 5k miles on any oil changes in the last 2 years
    • You must have 25k or more miles on your truck
    • Use Blackstone Labs for the testing.



    Test Outline and Procedure;

    This test is being performed to see exactly what a change to synthetic oil can do for your diesel trucks engine and your maintenance costs. This test will be completed on the most severe diesel engine of the big 3. This should allow for an unbiased test and allow the truck owner piece of mind by using UOA every 3k miles to keep tabs on his engine and oil rather than have any guess work or personal opinions involved in this test.

    Here is my proposal to you the volunteer. Change the oil & filter and install the free Fumoto Valve with nipple and use the supplied Fumoto Valve nipple plug between samples to keep the valve clean and the sample from being contaminated by dirt and possible road grime. Take the first sample at 3000 miles take the second at 6000 miles and change filter top off oil. Take the third sample at 9000 if the lab says that the oil can still be safely run keep it in and test again at 12k if still good by labs results go to 15k take a sample and change oil & filter.

    If you don't like the test results and or the oil or the extended drain interval you simply switch back to conventional mineral oil and keep changing your oil as you have been. If this test proves to you that extending OCI can be done safely and you would like to continue using Amsoil Synthetics I will give you a 1 year membership on the Amsoil Preferred Customer program. This will allow you to continue buying at my cost for that year. If you want to extend the membership after the one year is up you pay your renewal fees to extend it beyond that.

    PM me if interested in volunteering or donating to sponsor the test. The donations will go to testing fees incurredby the volunteer and the volunteers oil costs after that. This could be a very benificial test to have for future research on this site. Anybody who would like to paypal any amount because you think the test results would be worth that let me know and I will post your name as a sponsor for the test.
     
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    Sounds like a baited test. Why not allow anyone to volunteer? I'll do it but drop your restriction.
     
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    I am sorry you think its baited. I just felt the engine that is the worst on oil would be the best to test. This will be quite expensive for me so I thought I would take the worst end of the spectrum and see what happens for us all. If you like the results from a 6.0L shearing machine then think how well it will do in your 7.3L or 6.4L engine or any other brand for that matter. :sweet
     
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    I already run synthetic oil, drop your restrictions and I'll run your test. Either you will make me a beliver or I will prove AMZOIL wrong.
     
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    What oil do you run and whats your OCI?
     
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    I currently use Schaffer's 9000 at 7500 OCI. I'm going back to Mobil 1 soon as this is done roughly another 3k or so.

    I will follow your testing per your guidelines, but drop the restrictions so I can do it.
     
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    Which restriction is holding you up? Your current OCI of 7500?


    Dane if that is the snag, what would be skewed in the test results? If its a legit snag then HeavyAssault can move along and we can try to find another suitable test subject.
     
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    I already run synthetic oil and he wants a user that has done OCI's under 5k for the past 2 years.

    As I stated before make me an AMZOIL believer or prove me right. I could put this another way be I'll be civil.

    Criteria;

    • You must have a Ford Powerstroke Diesel 6.0L engine. I'm good here
    • You must not currently use synthetic oil in your engine. I use Schaffer's
    • You must be willing to go at least 10k miles on this one oil change as long as the lab says your oil is good and to continue use. I'll do it.
    • You must currently not have gone more than 5k miles on any oil changes in the last 2 years. I have followed the OEM interval of 7500 miles
    • You must have 25k or more miles on your truck. I'm good here
    • Use Blackstone Labs for the testing. I will use Blackstone
     
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    You should have come up with this test a month ago! I just changed my truck over to RP last month from Rotella-T dino oil and I was using a 3500 OCI. I also just ordered my Blackstone bottles so I can start testing. I will still be very interested in the results.
    (I have only run the RP for 1 - 2 thousand miles)
     
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    Please if you don't mind posting your results here on the site it would be good to follow along with your results too! When were you going to do the first sample for testing?

    I am not sure what OCI you have in mind with the RP or if you were going to test your way to figuring out what your OCI will be using synthetics but it would be nice to see other brands results so its can be about synthetics over conventional and not so much about Amsoil which I think a lot of people are looking at since I sell it. I just want to find out how the synthetics performs using lab testing as the guide and Amsoil is easiest for me to give to a test truck at my cost.

    Dane
     
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