More Diesel Woes for Ford?

Strut61

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Posted in an RV thread is the following.....This was posted in the Chicago tribune Friday morning edition, per the article!!!!

A contract dispute between Ford Motor Co. and Navistar International Corp. became public Thursday when the automaker sued Navistar in state court in Michigan for allegedly refusing to live up to terms of a long-standing supply accord.

For a decade, Warrenville-based Navistar has been the sole supplier of the diesel engines that Ford puts into its heavy-duty pickup trucks.

Now, however, the automaker and its key supplier have locked horns over the price Navistar is charging Ford, and also over the extent of Navistar's financial obligations in warranty claims involving its engine.

Ford's claims are "totally without merit," a Navistar spokesman said, adding that the maker of trucks and diesel engines intends to "vigorously respond in court."

Navistar has been providing Ford with a 6-liter diesel engine for several years, Ford's lawsuit notes, and in late 2006 it also began supplying the automaker with a new 6.4-liter engine.

"The parties have previously been able to negotiate and reach agreement on the prices of the engines Navistar produced for Ford," the complaint says, but with regard to the 6.4-liter engine Navistar has altered its bargaining stance and "failed to act in good faith."

In fact, Ford's lawsuit says, Navistar has threatened that unless Ford pays the price Navistar is demanding, Navistar would refuse to ship the new engine to Ford. That move would breach the supply agreement, it contends.

In addition, Ford says, Navistar is not complying with its warranty-sharing obligations. Under the agreement, Navistar is supposed to pay a portion of the costs Ford encounters for engine-related warranty repairs. But Navistar has refused to pay the amounts Ford says it is owed, according to the lawsuit.

In response, Ford took the unusual step of "debiting" Navistar for a portion of those costs. In other words, Ford is withholding money it owes Navistar for engines, in order to recover the money Ford says Navistar owes it under the warranty agreement.

Ford is asking the court to rule that the "debit" is proper under the circumstances, and it also asks the judge to order Navistar to reimburse Ford for future warranty costs.

The automaker also asks the court to issue a declaratory judgment on what Navistar can charge for the 6.4-liter engine.

The debit "is simply a business transaction intended to resolve a dispute we have with [Navistar]," Ford said in a statement. "Regrettably," it said, because Navistar has not cooperated, "we have no other choice but to take the debit and file the lawsuit."

Ford and Navistar also have a joint venture that manufactures medium-duty Ford trucks for sale in North America.
 

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Actually, it sounds more like Navistar/International Truck and Engine woes. If International isn't picking up part of the tab of warranty claims for an engine of their design, Ford has no choice but to take the action it has. Of course International does have Ford over a barrel, being the sole source supplier for the 6.4. I wonder how fast Ford can develop or modify one of its European diesels for North Amercian use?
 

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The worst part of this is that there are really no engines that are developped that meet the pickup requirements out there, that coudl readily be dropped in. There also might be a problem in getting the Ford specific parts that are needed for our trucks.
As for the lawsuits, I would bet that there are a ton of others out there between the two of them at the time, as well.
 

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Urban legend. Ford owned Cummins STOCK at one time, but Cummins is an independent entity from the Blue Oval.

man this isnt good, well toyota is gona take over the marken when they start building full sized diesels if ford doesnt get thair act together
 

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Doesnt ford take the eninge and then change the engine all around ( PCM settings and so forth. )

When internationals 6.0 first came out it had only 1/4 of the problems that fords 6.0 had. So I would think the warranty problems are more to fords part then internationals?
 

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